Breaking India & the Tukde-Tukde Gang – Sadhguru || Nation Matters Ep 01


Sadhguru: Democracy does not mean you have the right to dismantle a nation. their agenda is not even for the well-being of the nation. No more tukde. Anybody who talks about that should not exist
in this country, or they must they can be in state hospitality. Interviewer: Namaskram Sadhguru So Sadhguruji you talk about
the enemy within. We’re talking about in the last few days, there have been action on the enemy within. And these are the supporters, the funding channels, the people in our side of the border who are giving support. Sadhguru: See, we need to understand it’s
not just one or two people, there’s a whole infrastructure. This infrastructure has to be dismantled completely. So that if people from outside want to do something, they have to come as a military force, not go on doing these things. This can only happen because there is a local infrastructure. a certain level of support in the social media,
in the media, there is support. This must be dismantled. See, nation is not… I’m not speaking with some kind of fervour. I am just talking in terms of a solution. Nation is not something that
descended from somewhere. It’s an idea that all of us agreed that this is our nation. If we don’t take care of it, if we don’t invest ourselves into it, this idea will not become a wonderful idea, this will become a horrendous idea. Right now we have this problem – a whole lot of people have not invested
themselves in that idea. They are either vacillating… Interviewer: Including the political class? Sadhguru: They’re either vacillating or they’re
wondering which way is going to go. Even for them to wonder, the reason maybe the situation on the ground because I know from the other side at many points, Pakistan believes it’s very close that
they’re going to get Kashmir. They have never understood it doesn’t matter what they do, Indian army is never going to hand over
Kashmir to them. That’s never going to happen. But that side there is an illusion, many times in the last seventy years, at least four to five times they’ve really believed it’s come so close they’re going to get it now. Because they start talking locally, “Just so close, another two months we’ll have Kashmir.” This kind of talk goes on there. So that illusion we have to break. Interviewer: And how does one do that? Sadhguru: If you take away
the local infrastructure completely, there are people who are clearly other side of the wall, we need to deal with them one way, there’s a whole lot of people who sit on the wall, not knowing which way to fall, we must deal with them compassionately, and those who are on this side, we must deal with them in terms of protecting them
so that they don’t get harmed. Interviewer: I don’t know Sadhguruji whether you read a report that
came out in a magazine recently that looked at the caste of all the soldiers who had laid down their lives and it said it was only 12.5 percent of those
who laid down their lives who belong to the upper caste
and it was the lower caste, the schedule caste and tribes, the OBC that form the majority of those Sadhguru: See these are the lowest level
of minds in our country, unfortunately they are either through social media or media
also is focusing their cameras on them. Please these are not fit to be human beings. Please don’t put your cameras on them. Interviewer: But sir by not putting the cameras
is the ulcer within solved, sorted, cured? Sadhguru: See, if there is an ulcer in your body,
you don’t have to carry it on your face. Interviewer: But don’t you have to deal with it? Sadhguru: We have to deal with it. Speaker: How do we deal with it? Sadhguru: See the only reason people make such absurd statements is
for one day they’re celebrities. Don’t give them that status first of all. So in this country it’s become like this, somebody wants to be on the screen, all they have to say is something
absurd bizarre stuff. If you if you say it and the cameras are on them,
they’re just enjoying the limelight. Please don’t give them that. Interviewer: But Sadhguru ji, you know, if these people are told not to do something like this, or if there is action against them, then there will be battle cries
on the streets of the country, that their freedom of expression, their freedom of speech has been taken away (Sadhguru Laughs). And there is intolerance in this country. Sadhguru: See, speech is a valuable privilege
that a human being has. It’s very, very important that we use our speech as
human beings should. Essentially a human being means this, in what
way we are different from other animals is that there is an intelligence within us which can respond beyond
our instinctive compulsive reactions. That is, we can be more inclusive. We don’t have to live within our territories
as every other creature tries to live. There is a way for us to look beyond that. If your human speech does not represent that,
actually you have no right to speak. You should not have no right to speak. Interviewer: But should there be action against
such people and such speech? Sadhguru: See there is there is a perjury law in the country, there is defamation laws in the country but if you try to put a defamation thing on somebody, you will end up in the court more than them. Interviewer: So then how to do Sadhguru: So I’m saying first of all,
quick justice must happen. It’s very important. When justice will take ten years, fifteen
years, you’re only punishing the already one who’s been abused by somebody. This is a everyday thing happening to people
all over the country, it’s become free for all, anybody can say anything
because there’s no consequence. if it was olden time, without all this democratic thing,
in a town or a village, if somebody said something that’s not true
and abusive to you, they would go and slap him, but that’s against the law. If you slap him, you will get arrested,
not him, all right? So I am not talking about
taking law into your hands. But if you go and act physically, that will be taking law into your hands. But now, if whatever he does, he can do, and there is no law. There is a law, but it is too slow, that it is mocking you all the time. So these things, we need to settle. One of the important things, whether it’s
for businesses to work in this country, or to settle these kind of issues, settle those people who are supporting – people who are working against the country, either in the form of terror, or in the form of weakening the nation
in so many other ways. Within three months,
it must come to justice. Well, you don’t have enough judges, right? I’m saying, it is time we think about this,
that responsible citizens in this city let us say, can’t you find a 1000 people who will be beyond prejudice, and act as a some kind of judgment? Five people, ten people, make them into a jury
and clear all the simple cases (Overlapping Conversation) Interviewer: Sadhguruji, what are you saying? In this country, where people have come out
– Omar Khalid, and (Sadhguru Laughs) and you know, and all of these people who keep Kanhiya Kumar – they are icons today, because
they raised the slogans. At least they were part of the group that raised the slogans, “Bharat tere tukde tukde honge”, “ Afzal ham sharminda, tere kaatil
zina”(Overlapping Conversation). And when the sedition law is applied to them,
there are political mainstream parties that come out to question that Sadhguru: Yes, that is what I’m saying. As per the law, they shouldn’t be walking the street. All right? They’re not only walking the street, they
are hogging the limelight. Please end this, this’s the time. Right now, the country is ready for this,
country’s emotion is ready for this. This is the time to deal with all of them. All of them. Because this is not about retribution, this is about ensuring that the possibility, the threshold of possibility upon which we are sitting,
that we could solve the problems of poverty and bring well-being to this nation, and the people of this nation, who had such a bad deal
for last ten-fifteen generations, they’ve lived in poverty. Now there is a possibility, we don’t want some fool to hijack this. So we must act for solution. This is the time, I’m saying when I said “dismantle the infrastructure,” I’m meaning just this – all of them. It doesn’t matter who they are. Sadhguru: Well, many years ago, General Musharaf said “Next time there is a war, it’ll happen within your borders,
not at the border.” He said that. Well, he said it with a certain understanding,
and a certain knowledge about certain things. Now, when people have come up and openly said,
“We want to break the country,” we must decide, all of us. Do we want to break the country? We have broken it once, and never again we
going to break it, because when we broke it, we killed over a million people. And over fifteen million people were displaced. Many of them, after seventy years,
still not settled. And we know what pain… See, the reports carry the dead. If so many people died, you will report that so many people died. Do you have a way of reporting people suffering? Do you have a way of reporting people suffering? Those millions of people who were looted, raped and lost their children and wives and husbands, and they came in such desperate this way and that way, both sides, I’m saying. Do you want to create one more
situation like that? I’m not talking about geographic integrity,
I’m talking about human suffering. We have seen that suffering. Unfortunately, it’s not well recorded. Nobody has bothered to write
enough about it. Nobody’s bothered to make enough
movies about it. Nobody has brought it alive for this generation
that this has happened to us. Never again, we should make the same mistake. So openly in the capital city, when somebody
says, “Tukde tukde…” what are you going around doing all kinds of nuances of law? Please do what you have to do. Democracy is to make the nation function,
not to dismantle the nation. Democracy is not made to dismantle nation. If anybody has such a understanding, let them correct themselves now, because democracy is about a graceful
change of power, essentially. That without bloodbath you can change power
which never happened in human history, only after democratic process came,
this is happening. So democracy does not mean you have the right to dismantle a nation. “We don’t want to break the country once again,
we’ve have done it once, we have seen the suffering, what it has done, and
we don’t want such an incident to happen once again, ever, in our country.” So if somebody thinks they want to do it,
we must deal with them. What are we waiting for? their agenda is not even for
the well-being of the nation. When such a thing is there, if we don’t deal with it,
we are not peaceful people, we’re just naive and stupid. That’s all it is. I don’t want to go down as a generation which
was stupid, which did not know what to do, to make this nation tick. I want to die in such a way that, as a generation,
we did the right things and we took the country to the right place. Sadhguru: Let everybody understand this – an enormous amount of human suffering
we’ve unleashed with two tukdas we did. No more tukde. Anybody who talks about that should not exist
in this country, or they must they can be in state hospitality. (Background song)

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  1. नमस्कार अब सदगुरूजी आपके हर एक शब्द हर एक वाक्य अत्यंत सत्य है। भारत को एक अखंड राष्ट्र बनना है और विश्व पर राज करना है इस को शांति और अध्यात्मिक का संदेश देना है

  2. Isn’t this the same big woman that keeps screaming on TV amid the chaos that her ‘guests’ create? People like her are responsible for India’s misery. Why is she interviewing a great atman like Sadhguru?

  3. Dont Worry Sadhguru, we will not let anyone anyone break this country, we will break those who think of breaking us. Jai Hind.

  4. Indians must analyse on the basis of comprehensive facts because these all anti-Indian elements are working together to damage Bharat in 'so many different ways'.

  5. opposition parties, mahagathbandhan, and pakistan desperately want to drag Bharat down. 55 years vs 55 months have been incredible in Indian history. Hindustani must be united to defeat those anti-Indian elements.

  6. Despite my great respect for Sadguru I dont understand his antidemocratic Ideas nor his antisocial attitude. Did he real understand poverty in india as Ghandiji has?

  7. Sadguru You have to know that kanhaiya Kumar never ever said भारत तेरे तुकडे होंगे…. Kanhaiya Kumar talks about manual Scavenging he talks about poverty he talks about poor people I think you are also from BJP/RSS…… You say your self Indian but you still Don't know Hindi language..Chowkidar Sadguru.

  8. How can you dislike the video
    It shows what kind of perspective you have towards your country
    Shame on you and you call yourself Indian

  9. Only one state is there ..KASMIR
    BECAUSE THERE IS STILL 350 ARTICLE RUNNING..
    if it remove its immediately stop by only Hindus🤣🤣😎😎

  10. And now that Kanhaiya Kumar is contesting elections.. exactly what Sadhguru said they want limelight to make their agendas work!

  11. I respect you sadhguru ji but …
    Tukde tukde was just discourse spread by fascist values in our country for being in power and diverting the people from crucial issues …. because whom you are criticizing today those few protecting our democracy …… ..

    And that's why he is able to collect 28lakh by crowd funding in just 2 days …

    We respect you as spiritual guru but if you are manifesting your political view by favouring just one side (fascist) then this will leads to loosing your respect in us

  12. India media should not even invite the so called experts from across the border thus cutting off the air supply

  13. America Pakistan and European countries are striving hard to break India as they know well India and China will be future game changer
    .therefore they fund Christians missionaries to convert people and join independence movement
    And to vanish Hindus and there culture so as to favour them and funding arms through Pakistan and Tibet is going to break

    So guys please wake up save your country and religion otherwise you will be broken like USSR 🙁

  14. Bruh any Indian who disrespects the sovereignty of India must be jailed up imo.

  15. Tell him to watch atal bihari vajpayee and advani they are the government people
    They itself told that who are the biggest tukde tukde gang who are dismantling the democracy and nation its the media, politicians and religion extremists

  16. It is to my surprise that a Guru like him idealizes Indian culture of cast and creed, their way of senseless humiliation of Kashmiri people.
    He talks more and loos more his Guru-hood status.
    I started feeling bad about him as he is no more a universal guru he has become a local guru.

  17. 💯% agreed,first time listen some body clearly understood the consequences and try to aware the society..i read history and conversation with sufferer of 1947 their eye full of water…this cancer should be treat at initial stages otherwise pain and sugical process affect billions of people's….thank you sadguru for brilliant clearity

  18. Eveyone please go and give your vote for country devellopment and progress;in order to make our country clean,united and free from poverty..

  19. Pray, there is some one who can take the country in right direction as Sri. Sadhguruji expressed… We cant miss the present opportunity.

  20. This is a backlash to how Bjp and rss are behaving, Let them behave and peace will automatically come to this country. Even the the people who are saying tukde tukde they do not mean it. when Bjp and Rss doing things which are against the nation there will be a backlash in this form.

  21. Dear Dislikers you are genetically same race as ours brothers.. Definitely not Arabic. They'll never treat you as thier own believe me. We were ruled for a thousand years but they could never convert us.. Please let all of us progress but definitely we will annihilate anything that will threaten our existence. We are the most oldest living tribe on planet earth! Jai Hind!

  22. Sadguru has a noble thinking on many ideas of life. But this interview is ridiculous. One of the shittiest interviewer from a shitty biased channel, and this interview ends up as another tool of brainwashing and hiding the truths of the real threat that the democratic fundamentals have, under the blanket of nationalism!

  23. Sadhguruji is doing so much for our Bharat Desh………i wish n pray for his long long long……life, we are desperately in need of our Sadhguruji,🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳

  24. First time in Indian history true Indian voting for RASTRAWAD(NATIONALISM) . Not on agenda for Caste Creed Community Religion and reservation.
    Please do go and vote 🙏 for sake of our children's future.

  25. Ab samje congressi, communists aur separatists sadhguru ko badanam kyu kar rahe he. Sachh bol rahe he isliye na pasand he.

  26. Sadhguru , I think you have half knowledge.. grow up Buddy..

    I don't think any Indian thinks about dividing India. We are mature enough to understand that Kashmir has gone through a lot, as well unemployment and limited local education bodies has led to unawarness .. Sadhguru you are no one to tell someone.. who can go where.

  27. I just want to see (1):Sandeep Maheshwari and Sadguru together.
    (2):Elon musk and K Sivan with Conversation with Sadguru taking about space and space mission. 😍😍
    Support me if u want the same.

  28. SADHU GURU is respected in the whole world and the world media well respect him . but what happen in INDIA ,, these INDIAN media always try to lower down him. this is why i call indian media as pigshit.

  29. I dont know what any of this is about (i am a living in america) but it is shocking to hear Sadhguru saying that some humans arent humans and shoulldent speak. Is this really right? shouldent the focus be on teaching peole to not be influenced? I feel out of place because i dont know what is going on so please understand this. I would just like more information on this subject.

  30. All soldiers who fight for the country are Kashtriyas, irrespective of their birth. The low-lives who are creating such divisive statistics are trying to create a rift in our forces.

  31. Sadguruji, Parnaam!
    Thank you for speaking for bharat maata 🙏🙏🙏
    We need your leadership to save sanathana dharma.

  32. India is taken over since 1992 by the capitalists of India who have stolen at least $2600 Billions , robbed all banks, are responsible for half of Indian foreign debts. They are also importing products which can be produced in India thus increasing India's deficits in the balnce of payments. They are breaking India from within.
    I hope sadhguru will read Arthashashtra of Kautilya and learn the virtue of the public sector based economy. That is the true Sanatana Dharma, not the Sadhguru version of Hinduism.

  33. Till the time he will not speak in common man's language ie Hindi he will not be known to common man .

  34. I am a fan of sadhguru…and i dnt understand why the managers of sadhguru arrange his interviews with these bigoted media….it will generate negative images of sadhguru among people ……times now arnab goswami and navika are paid hypocrites…..sadhguru is in no need to answer these questions……tukde tukde gang ARE THESE POLITICAL PARTIES ITSELF….and we have enough evidences for their hypocrisy…..let sadhguru be unbiased…

  35. I will be abused down here as a congressi…but i dnt support any party….i challenge anyone who defends bjp or congress…..BJP IS WORSE CONGRESS IS WORSE…EVEEY POLITICAL PARTY IS A HYPOCRITE NOWADAYS…one should always seek the truth ..looks sadhguru is misinformed about BJP…hope he soon learns that the real enemy is itself running the nation

  36. Sadhguru is being terribily misinformed…i think he has a soft heart …..some people have fed him gibberish ….pls sadhguru dnt listen to these bigots…the real bigots are sitting in front of you….SADHGURU IS BEING MISINFORMED

  37. Every frame of this video is a pain to watch……i cant believe …he is being so misinformed…moreover being interviewed by navika kumar

  38. *It's true that protests will lead towards dishormony.

    onec a kid asked about elephant corridor ….
    and now you are talking about kanhiya Kumar *

  39. Jago public Jago emotions se nahi Stastics aur History se seekho

    Ye hame batne vale vahi hai jo angrejo Gulam rahe ek hindovo Ko bargalata hai aur ek Muslims ko

  40. Satguru, stop hate politics everything will be solved. You can not unite people with enforcing hateful ideology on people in the name of celebrating cultural pride. So speek against the hate gaint in the name of hindutva, which is destroying the ethics of original Hinduism. Instead of pointing finger on the subject of hatred, point finger to the engine of hate named Sangha paribar. This time your focus this at wrong place, to free people from pain dismantle RSS no one will get fuel to put bad eye on this country.

  41. Ye tukde tukde kon?
    Ye bike hue patrakaar hein
    Ye tukde tukde
    Ye anpadh dalal he
    Ye tukde tukde kon
    Ye modi sarkar he
    Though I was his follower but he is too much baised and can't be sage 😐🙏Sorry but this is truth Gurujii……

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