PBS NewsHour full episode October 25, 2019

JUDY WOODRUFF: Good evening. I’m Judy Woodruff. On the “NewsHour” tonight: to the streets. A dual look at global unrest, as Chile and
Lebanon erupt in days of massive protests. It’s Friday. Mark Shields and David Brooks are here to
analyze the Trump administration’s criminal probe into the origins of the Russia investigation
and the latest moves in the impeachment inquiry. Plus: Julie Andrews, legendary star of stage
and screen, and now the author of a new memoir co-written with her daughter, about raising
a family while in the Hollywood spotlight. EMMA WALTON HAMILTON, Co-Author, “Home Work:
A Memoir of My Hollywood Years”: I couldn’t sit through “The Sound of Music for Years”
without weeping, because any time I saw my mother cry on film, I burst into tears myself. JULIE ANDREWS, Co-Author, “Home Work: A Memoir
of My Hollywood Years”: Yes, she’d suddenly say, I’m just going out for a little bit,
blinking very furiously. JUDY WOODRUFF: All that and more on tonight’s
“PBS NewsHour.” (BREAK) JUDY WOODRUFF: Wildfires are burning out of
control across Northern and Southern California today. The state’s largest utility, Pacific Gas & Electric,
admitted that its electrical equipment could have sparked one of those fires in Sonoma
County. But the official cause has yet to be determined. William Brangham has the latest. WILLIAM BRANGHAM: Once again, thousands of
California firefighters are battling fast-moving blazes across the state. Driven by strong winds and dry conditions,
the fires are forcing tens of thousands to evacuate their homes. Hundreds of schools were closed due to poor
air quality and closed highways. The Kincade Fire, in Northern California’s
Sonoma County, doubled in size in less than 24 hours. It’s already destroyed at least 49 structures
and burned more than 21,000 acres. It’s just 5 percent contained. MIKE PARKES, Incident Commander, Cal Fire:
We absolutely are up against the clock. The winds that are predicted over the next
couple days are currently expected to be worse than what we had just the other night. WILLIAM BRANGHAM: Four hundred miles south,
just north of Los Angeles, the Tick Fire has burned more than 4,000 acres and several subdivisions. Officials say another 10,000 structures are
threatened. It too is just 5 percent contained. Two weeks ago, the California utility Pacific
Gas & Electric shut off power to hundreds of thousands of residents, trying to prevent
high winds from knocking over power lines and sparking fires. Investigators believe that’s what caused last
year’s deadly Camp Fire that killed 85. Yesterday, PG&E said a transmission tower
malfunctioned near the site where the Kincade Fire began, a blaze which continues to roar
across Northern California’s wine country. California’s governor, Democrat Gavin Newsom,
blasted the utility company yesterday. GOV. GAVIN NEWSOM (D-CA): It’s about decades of
mismanagement. It’s about focusing on shareholders and dividends
over you and members of the public. It’s a story about greed. And they need to be held accountable. WILLIAM BRANGHAM: PG&E warns they will have
to cut power to more homes throughout the weekend. And if high winds continue, it could turn
into the largest blackout yet for Californians, yet another new normal for a state grappling
with the growing impacts of climate change. For the “PBS NewsHour,” I’m William Brangham. JUDY WOODRUFF: A federal judge Washington
today ruled that the House impeachment inquiry is legal and ordered the Department of Justice
to give House investigators secret grand jury testimony from the Mueller report. House Democrats also issued three more subpoenas
as part of that inquiry to two top White House budget officials and a State Department official. Meanwhile, it was widely reported that the
Justice Department’s review of the Russia investigation’s origins has now evolved into
a criminal probe. President Trump said he anticipates the findings
will shed new light on the special counsel’s investigation. DONALD TRUMP, President of the United States:
I think you’re going to see a lot of really bad things. And a lot of people think that — and they
know they have problems because they were very dishonest. And, again, I leave it all up to the attorney
general, and I leave it all up to the people that are working with the attorney general,
who I don’t know. But I will say this. I think you will see things that nobody would’ve
believed. JUDY WOODRUFF: Prosecutors will now have greater
authority to issue subpoenas and to file criminal charges. The Trump corporate organization acknowledged
today that it’s looking into whether to sell its Washington hotel. That comes amid ethics complaints and lawsuits
that accuse Mr. Trump of profiting off his presidency. The Trump Hotel, located just blocks from
the White House, has a 100-year lease on the historic building. It took in $41 million in revenue last year. A federal judge in California has held U.S.
Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos in contempt of court for violating an order related to
student loans. The ruling said that DeVos continued to collect
loans from students who attended Corinthian Colleges — that is a now-defunct chain of
for-profit colleges — despite being ordered to stop. The federal Education Department was also
fined $100,000. More children were separated from their families
at the U.S.-Mexico border than previously known. That’s according to a new count the Trump
administration submitted to the American Civil Liberties Union. Immigration authorities separated more than
1,500 additional children from their parents between July 2017 and June 2018, when a federal
judge ordered an end to the practice. That brings the overall number of children
separated since July 2017 to more than 5,400. In Iraq, security forces clashed with anti-government
protesters in Baghdad and across several southern provinces today, killing at least 30 people. Thousands of demonstrators took to the streets
of the capital city to protest the country’s corruption and struggling economy. Police fired live rounds, rubber bullets,
and tear gas to try to disperse the crowd. We will take a closer look at anti-government
protests in two other countries, Lebanon and Chile, later in the program. Despite President Trump’s recent decision
to pull U.S. troops out of Northern Syria, the U.S. will strengthen its military presence
in one area in order to block Islamic State fighters from accessing oil fields. Defense Secretary Mark Esper confirmed plans
to deploy U.S. troops and armored vehicles, but he didn’t offer specifics. Esper spoke to reporters after meeting with
the Turkey’s defense minister today in Brussels. MARK ESPER, U.S. Defense Secretary: We are
now taking some actions — I am not going to get into the details — to strengthen our
position at Deir el-Zour to ensure that we can deny ISIS access to the oil fields, because
we want to make sure that they don’t have access to the resources that may allow them
to strike within the region, to strike Europe, to strike the United States. JUDY WOODRUFF: Meanwhile, Russia’s Defense
Ministry said that it sent about 300 additional military police to patrol the Turkey-Syria
border. They will help oversee the pullout of Syrian
Kurdish fighters. The European Union agreed today to grant the
U.K.’s request for another extension to the Brexit deadline. But it won’t decide just how long that delay
should be until next week. Britain was scheduled to leave the bloc next
Thursday. The move gives a divided British Parliament
time to decide on Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s call for an early election to break the deadlock
over Brexit. Back in this country, the federal budget deficit
for 2019 soared to over $984 billion. That is its highest level in seven years. And, also, that is a $205 billion or 25 percent
increase over just last year. The Treasury Department reported the new figure
included lost revenue from President Trump’s tax cuts, as well as increased spending for
the military and domestic programs. Members of the united Auto Workers Union ratified
a new contract with General Motors today, bringing an end to their 40-day strike. About 49,000 auto workers had walked off the
job since mid-September. That halted production at more than 30 U.S.
factories. Stocks rallied on Wall Street today. The Dow Jones industrial average gained 152
points to close at 26958. The Nasdaq rose 57 points, and the S&P 500
added 12. And the late Maryland Congressman and civil
rights leader Elijah Cummings was remembered today at a funeral in Baltimore. Thousands of mourners, including former Presidents
Barack Obama and Bill Clinton, came to pay their final respects to the Democrat who served
in the U.S. House of Representatives for 23 years. The final send-off for Congressman Cummings
began early today in his hometown of Baltimore, a wall of sound from organ and choir filling
the 4,000-seat New Psalmist Baptist Church, where Cummings himself worshipped for 40 years. BISHOP WALTER THOMAS, New Psalmist Baptist
Church: We prepare now for the requiem of a public servant, the Honorable Elijah Eugene
Cummings. JUDY WOODRUFF: A military honor guard covered
the congressman’s casket with an American flag. A
favorite of Cummings, singer BeBe Winans, remembered him with the song “Stand.” And political leaders, Democrats and Republicans
alike, sat with members of the Baltimore community, whom Cummings served for more than two decades. Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
likened him to the biblical prophet whose name he bore. HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON, Former U.S. Secretary
of State: Like the prophet, our Elijah could call down fire from heaven. (CHEERING AND APPLAUSE) HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON: But he also prayed
and worked for healing. He weathered storms and earthquakes, but never
lost his faith. JUDY WOODRUFF: She was followed by the House
speaker, Nancy Pelosi, who remembered Cummings as welcoming to everyone he encountered. REP. NANCY PELOSI (D-CA): Our Elijah always made
a seat at the table for others, for even new members of Congress, so that he could mentor
them, for all who wanted to be part of the American dream. JUDY WOODRUFF: Longtime friend and former
U.S. Congressman Kweisi Mfume spoke of Cummings as a faith-filled man, as profound as he was
funny. KWEISI MFUME (D), Former U.S. Congressman:
I would go on later that year to get elected to the city council, winning by three votes. And Elijah, who had met my grandmother, thought
it was funny. They came to me and said: “Now, Kweisi, as
long as you are black,” which meant the rest of my life, “You just remember those three
votes were the father, the son, and the holy ghost, and you can’t go wrong.” (CHEERING AND APPLAUSE) JUDY WOODRUFF: Cummings’ daughter, Jennifer,
thanked him for life lessons and shared her memories of his famous voice. JENNIFER CUMMINGS, Daughter of Elijah Cummings:
Thank you for loving me unconditionally and teaching me what love and leadership are by
your example. I will miss your smile, your great big smile
that could light up a room. I will miss your booming voice that would
firmly sound, “Jennifer,” when I knew I was in trouble. JUDY WOODRUFF: And his wife, Maya, who chairs
Maryland’s Democratic Party, called her husband a public servant of integrity, and a walking
miracle. MAYA ROCKEYMOORE CUMMINGS, Wife of Elijah
Cummings: He was given six months to live more than 25 years ago, and he kept going,
he kept fighting, he kept standing, he kept working! (CHEERING AND APPLAUSE) JUDY WOODRUFF: At the service were two former
presidents, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. Both urged those gathered to remember lessons
left by Cummings. BILL CLINTON, Former President of the United
States: But we should hear him now in the quiet times at night and in the morning, when
we need courage. When we get discouraged, and we don’t know
if we can believe anymore, we should hear him. (APPLAUSE) BARACK OBAMA, Former President of the United
States: His life validates the things we tell ourselves about what’s possible in this country,
not guaranteed, but possible. We have the capacity, the chance, as individuals
and as a nation, to root ourselves in good soil. JUDY WOODRUFF: The eulogy summed up Cummings
as a man of devout faith who did what he could to bring together a divided nation. That portrait came from the longtime pastor
of Cummings’ church, Bishop Walter Thomas. BISHOP WALTER THOMAS: He never wanted to lose
what was grounded in him. And I think he brought you to church because
too many in our country are forgetting where they came from. JUDY WOODRUFF: The organ sounded as the service
closed, while pallbearers wheeled Cummings’ casket out for final burial. Elijah Cummings was 68 years old. Still to come on the “NewsHour”: Lebanon and
Chile erupt in protest — what’s driving two waves of unrest a world apart?; filling the
bench — a close look at the new federal judges the White House is ushering to lifetime appointments;
Mark Shields and David Brooks break down a dizzying week of impeachment news; and one
of our favorite things, a conversation with Julie Andrews. Across the world, in dozens of countries,
protesters have taken to the streets. The demands in each country may be unique,
but demonstrators are united in desperation with economic disparity and unrealized expectations. We begin in Lebanon, where, as special correspondent
Jane Ferguson reports, anger at the government crosses religious and political divides. JANE FERGUSON: In Lebanon, defying religious
divisions is a revolutionary act in and of itself. This protest movement, less than 10 days’
old, aims to overcome decades of deep sectarianism that have led to a corrupt government and
devastating economic crisis. Corruption and bad leadership have made Lebanon
the second most indebted country in the world. It may default on its debts if it doesn’t
balance its annual budget. The government has tried to claw its way out
of the financial disaster by promising reforms, but demanding more taxes. These people have had enough. ABDUL, Engineering Student: I am an engineering
student. Here, there’s nothing for sure. You have to fight. You have to. It’s not easy. JANE FERGUSON: This group of young men are
angry that there’s no future here. ESSAM, Protester: The level of unemployed
is very high. There is a large brain drain in this country. People graduate and then they try their best
to leave because there’s no opportunities for young men and women. JANE FERGUSON: Lebanon’s political system
is based on the country’s sectarian divisions, with top government posts being shared out
between Sunni Muslims, Shia, Druze, and Christians. It is designed to keep the peace, but leads
to constant deadlock and corruption. Those sectarian leaders, in place since the
15-year civil war ended in 1990, have become entrenched. All sides exploit sectarian fears to shore
up their positions and stay in power, where they enrich themselves. Sami Nader is an economist who has been predicting
these protests for months. SAMI NADER, Economist: There is no separation
between business and politics. And the politician either is doing business
directly or, now, if it’s so obvious, he has around him circles who get big contracts. It’s the case in the electricity sector. It’s the case in the waste sectors, and the
case in the telecom sectors. JANE FERGUSON: A State Department official
voiced American support for the protesters, telling Saudi channel Al-Arabiya the people
of Lebanon are rightly frustrated with their government’s inability to prioritize reform. These protests have shaken the country’s political
elite, with Prime Minister Saad Hariri appearing on television four days ago to offer the protesters
reforms. SAAD HARIRI, Lebanese Prime Minister (through
translator): These decisions are not for bartering. They are not to ask you to stop protesting
or expressing anger. This is something that you decide. And we are not giving you a deadline, and
I will not allow anyone to threaten or intimidate you. JANE FERGUSON: The protesters rejected his
offer, and instead demanded all political leaders resign. Hariri is a Sunni Muslim, but his rival, Hassan
Nasrallah, from the Shia Hezbollah movement, is also rattled by the protests. Hezbollah is not just a military force here,
but a political one, too. Just as he was due to speak in a televised
address today, several hundred of Nasrallah’s supporters arrived at the protests, bringing
loudspeakers to blast his words over the sounds of the protesters calling for his resignation. HASSAN NASRALLAH, Hezbollah Leader (through
translator): We are scared for the country. We are scared that there might be someone
who wants to take Lebanon and create social, security and political tensions that would
lead to civil war. JANE FERGUSON: Nasrallah, whose movement is
largely funded and supported by Iran, also claimed the protest movement was an international
conspiracy. HASSAN NASRALLAH (through translator): Information
and data that we got from different sources show that now the situation in Lebanon has
entered the target of political instrumentalization internationally and regionally that involves
internal actors. JANE FERGUSON: “All of you, all of you” has
become a common chant here, telling the Hezbollah supporters that their leader should step down
too. The riot police are separating the different
protesters. The main protest over here are those who are
calling for the fall of the government and all political elites. And just behind this thick layer of riot police
are Hezbollah supporters who have come down and caused quite a bit of tension here today. When we crossed the police line and headed
over to speak to them, they told us the protesters should go home. But the police eventually told them to move
on instead, and the angry crowd threw sticks and water bottles as they were shoved out
of the street. They put up some resistance to the police
before giving up and going home. The protesters know that sectarian leaders
will not surrender their grip on power here easily. You think the current system tries to divide
and rule? MAN: Exactly, because they are benefiting. There’s like the $100 billion they have stolen
from the country. JANE FERGUSON: As night comes, Beirut’s city
center reclaims the carnival atmosphere that has characterized these protests from the
beginning. Across the country, music and dancing have
been used by protesters to defy religious divisions and call for elites to step aside. Keeping their movement peaceful and united
will be just as great a challenge as creating real political change. For the “PBS NewsHour,” I’m Jane Ferguson
in Beirut, Lebanon. NICK SCHIFRIN: And I’m Nick Schifrin with
a look at protests 8,000 miles away in Chile. For the past week, Chileans have also filled
city streets to create a leaderless, spontaneous movement calling for fundamental reforms. Struggling to feed their families, pots become
instruments of frustration. They protest unaffordable health care, low
pensions, and what they describe as a government that’s lost legitimacy. SOFIA GUANCAUAVA, Protester (through translator):
This country is unjust. The price of gas and electricity go up, and
there is no respect for the people, only enriching business and the government. NICK SCHIFRIN: Chile has been one of Latin
America’s most stable countries, touted as a model of regional success. In the ’90s and 2000s, prosperity expanded. But it also has one of the world’s largest
wealth gaps. ARTURO VALENZUELA, Former Director, Georgetown
Latin American Studies Center: People who were very, very poor in the past, who could
not think about protesting, now have a whole host of rising expectations. And so it’s a crisis in the sense of rising
expectations that are not fulfilled on the part of many, many people. NICK SCHIFRIN: Arturo Valenzuela was the director
of Georgetown’s Latin American Studies Center and a former senior State Department official
who has tracked the country as it modernized and grew richer. ARTURO VALENZUELA: People then become much
more aware also of the enormous gaps between the people who are going to private schools,
the people who live in really well-off neighborhoods, and so on and so forth. And so the inequality issue — and, certainly,
Chile has become far more unequal. NICK SCHIFRIN: And this week, that feeling
of inequality exploded, not only into peaceful protests, but also deadly clashes between
government and the governed. At least 17 protesters have been killed, and
hundreds of police injured, in running battles that paralyzed the capital, Santiago. Billionaire President Sebastian Pinera announced
increased pensions and minimum wages, improved health care, and reversed the public transit
price hike that helps spark the protest. SEBASTIAN PINERA, Chilean President (through
translator): We have heard loud and clear the voice of the people, the voice of the
Chileans who have peacefully expressed their problems, their pains, their shortages, their
dreams, and their hopes for a better life. NICK SCHIFRIN: But he also deployed the military
that’s targeted protesters, and enforced a curfew with batons and smoke grenades. It’s the first time that’s happened since
the dictatorship of General Augusto Pinochet, when 40,000 Chileans were killed, tortured
or imprisoned. And the fear is, some of those dark days are
returning. MAN: Here we are in militarized Santiago. NICK SCHIFRIN: On Monday, Miguel Sofia filmed
as 9,000 soldiers took over Santiago’s streets, and he talked to protesters unafraid of violence
or the curfew. WOMAN (through translator): The social discontent
is not just about the fare rides for the subway. The only thing the government does is criminalize
a situation that, in truth, they have dragged on for so long. Now the military are using the same strategy
they used during dictatorship, making fun of people and shooting people in many regions. NICK SCHIFRIN: Suddenly, an unmarked car screeched
toward them. MAN: Shooting, man. NICK SCHIFRIN: Sofia and reporter Jonathan
Franklin screamed that they were press. MAN: No! (SHOUTING) NICK SCHIFRIN: The car made a U-turn and fired
a few final shots. JONATHAN FRANKLIN, Journalist: Just came and
started shooting indiscriminately at people. We had to hide behind this tree — the bark
off here, the shotgun blast. You can see different pieces of the tree were
blown away. We were, fortunately, behind the tree, but
they were shooting at people. MAN: More coming, more coming. NICK SCHIFRIN: They could have been unmarked
police or provocateurs. But this kind of violence in Chile hasn’t
been seen in decades, and it’s not going to stop. MAN (through translator): I’m not in favor
of violence at all. In fact, I have never liked it, but I think
it is the only way that they will listen to us. ARTURO VALENZUELA: Many citizens are probably
going to say, well, look, we need to take care of the violent elements right here. But, on the other hand, it’s quite clear that
there is an opening right here for significant abuses of human rights on the part of the
authorities, when a protest is repressed in that way. NICK SCHIFRIN: The U.N. vows to investigate
reports of human rights violations. And protesters say the government’s concessions
are too little, too late. That’s the same message from many protesters
around the world, not only in Chile and Lebanon, but also in Iraq, in Haiti, and in Ecuador. All these protests have local causes and local
politics, but they’re all organized online, and protesters object to widespread economic
disparity and increase, but unrealized expectations. And the underlying problems they demand fixed
are not easy for any government to deliver. For the “PBS NewsHour,” I’m Nick Schifrin. JUDY WOODRUFF: Amid the constant swirl of
news around the White House, there has been one constant in the Trump administration:
a steady stream of the president’s judicial nominees to federal courts across the country. Lisa Desjardins explains how this little-noticed
effort could have an impact on the presidential election next year and on the courts for decades
to come. LISA DESJARDINS: Vote by vote, Republicans
are quietly reshaping federal courts. MAN: The yeas are 50. The nays are 41. The nomination is confirmed. LISA DESJARDINS: With this vote yesterday,
the Republican Senate confirmed Justin Walker as the 157th Trump appointee to get a lifetime
position on the federal bench. More on him in a minute. First about that number, 157 federal judges
confirmed. That is on par with figures for the presidents
Clinton and Bush at this point in their terms, but it’s at least 40 percent more than President
Obama confirmed by this time, according to analysis by the Brookings Institution. This is a rally cry for President Trump. DONALD TRUMP, President of the United States:
We will have a record number of judges. LISA DESJARDINS: If so, it will be thanks
to Republican Senate leader Mitch McConnell, whose chamber decides the fate of nominees. And he is playing the long game. SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL (R-KY): I have always believed
the single most powerful way the U.S. Senate can positively impact the country’s future
is through our role in confirming lifetime appointments to the federal courts. LISA DESJARDINS: First, McConnell blocked
President Obama’s nominees toward the end of his term, leaving dozens of vacancies for
the next president. And then, this spring, McConnell changed Senate
rules to cut debate time for most judges from 30 hours each to just two hours. Since that rules change, the Senate is now
a nomination factory. It is the body’s main function. WOMAN: The nomination is confirmed. MAN: The nomination is confirmed. MAN: The nomination is confirmed. JACQUELINE THOMSEN, “The National Law Journal”:
It makes things go so much faster within the Senate. LISA DESJARDINS: Jacqueline Thomsen covers
judicial nominations and the federal courts for “The National Law Journal,” and sees a
breakneck pace. JACQUELINE THOMSEN: It’s just happening so
fast that there just isn’t even time for anybody to take a step back and think about the nominees
that they’re voting for on the scale that they were able to before. LISA DESJARDINS: Where President Trump particularly
has crushed all other modern presidents is at the appeals court level, the level below
the Supreme Court. Not yet three years into his presidency, already,
nearly one-quarter of all appeals court judges are Trump appointees. And those courts decide thousands of pivotal
cases. Federal courts have determined the fates of
immigrant families and abortion policy, and regularly rule on laws about schools and workplaces
alike. Now Republicans are not just focusing on numbers
of judges, but also on confirming much younger ones. Again, “The National Law Journal”‘s Jacqueline
Thomsen: JACQUELINE THOMSEN: We’re seeing people in
their 40s, not their 60s, getting nominated. So that means that they’re going to be on
the court for a while, and that they’re really going to be able to shape the law in a way
that lasts for far beyond the time that they are even on the bench. LISA DESJARDINS: This brings us back to Justin
Walker, confirmed as a federal district judge yesterday. Walker is just 37 years old, a law professor
at the University of Louisville. He is admired by Republicans, but, as Democrats
point out, he has never tried a case as a lawyer. SEN. DIANNE FEINSTEIN (D-CA): Have you ever presented
an argument before a federal jury? JUSTIN WALKER, Judicial Nominee: Senator,
I have not, although, again… LISA DESJARDINS: That lack of courtroom experience
drew an automatic not qualified rating from the nonpartisan American Bar Association. That is something that derailed nominees in
the past, but no more. Walker is the fifth Trump nominee to get on
the federal bench, despite being rated unqualified by the ABA. And the Senate is poised to vote on a sixth
such nominee soon. To Republicans, the ABA is outdated and not
the point. McConnell sees each new conservative judge
as a political win which will outlive him, this president and presidents after that. And this is an issue that fires up Republican
voters, something the Trump campaign is counting on next year. MIKE PENCE, Vice President of the United States:
Four more years mean more judges. (CHEERING AND APPLAUSE) JACQUELINE THOMSEN: They’re able to say, we
took an entire branch of the federal government, and we reshaped it in our image to reflect
our values. And we didn’t just do it for today and tomorrow. We did it for your children and your children’s
children. LISA DESJARDINS: McConnell and the Senate
show no signs of slowing. It’s set to vote on another group of President
Trump’s nominees as soon as next week. For the “PBS NewsHour,” I’m Lisa Desjardins. JUDY WOODRUFF: In this week alone, the top
U.S. diplomat for Ukraine told Congress that the president withheld military aid for personal
political gain; Republican Congress members stormed a secure room at the Capitol, where
many already had access, to dispute the impeachment process, but not the substance; and we have
learned that the Department of Justice is investigating its own FBI for looking into
Russia’s interference in the 2016 election. Amidst all this, the White House announced
that the president has ordered the cancellation of all federal government subscriptions to
The New York Times and The Washington Post. That makes it a perfect moment to hear the
analysis of Shields and Brooks. (LAUGHTER) JUDY WOODRUFF: That is syndicated column was
Mark Shields and New York Times columnist David Brooks. So, David, no subscriptions to the White House
from your newspaper. DAVID BROOKS: This explains why I have been
getting no invites… (CROSSTALK) (LAUGHTER) JUDY WOODRUFF: But you will soldier on. But let’s pick up first with Lisa’s reporting
on these federal judges that Trump has been able to nominate and get successfully confirmed,
more judges than any of his predecessors. What’s the real significance of this? DAVID BROOKS: Well, when you talk to conservative
voters why they support Trump, that’s the number one answer, the courts. And so he’s having an effect. He’s nominating conventional Republican Federalist
Society judges. They’re not populists. I’m not sure I see the — quite the same transformation
on the circuit court level, the level just under the Supreme Court. Of the 13 appellate courts, only one may flip. So you have got Democratic seats staying — Democratic
districts staying Democratic, Republicans getting a little redder. But you haven’t seen a transformation from
a more liberal court to a more conservative court. And his impact on future on nominations may
go down because Democratic judges are not retiring. They’re waiting and hoping there’s a Democrat. So they’re — it’s expected there will be
relatively fewer openings over the next couple years than there were the previous. JUDY WOODRUFF: So, Mark, maybe not transformational? MARK SHIELDS: I think it approaches transformational,
Judy. I would just point out, in Lisa’s piece, she
made the point that these were fired up — this issue fired up Republican voters. Make no mistake about it, she’s absolutely
right. In the exit polls in 2016, when 23,000 actual
voters were polled, and they asked, what’s the most important issue that you are deciding
on, a full one out of five voters answered that the Supreme Court nominations and judicial
nominations. And they broke for Donald Trump overwhelmingly,
I mean, almost by 3-2. And those who just considered it an important
issue or not as important issue, judicial, all vote for Hillary Clinton. This was a turning and key vote. Promise made, promise delivered. He has totally — as David pointed out, his
appointments have come from the Federalist Society. And the other factor is, they’re playing the
actuarial charts. I mean, they’re younger. Neil Gorsuch. JUDY WOODRUFF: Some in their 30s. MARK SHIELDS: Neil Gorsuch, for example, was
49 when he was nominated. Brett Kavanaugh is 53, right — most recently,
35-year-old. So it’s a real change. And it’s a promise made, promise delivered,
much to the consternation of a lot of Democrats. JUDY WOODRUFF: Well, we know it flies under
the radar, and that’s why we thought it was so important to take a look at it. We are grateful for Lisa’s reporting. Impeachment. David, there was virtually a development every
day about that. We just learned today that a federal judge
has said that the impeachment inquiry in the House, in his view, is legal. And that means that the Department of Justice
is going to have to turn over grand jury material from the Mueller investigation. But this follows a week of testimony behind
closed doors, some of it, though, made public, by one public servant or diplomatic figure
after another, including especially William Taylor, who served as the ambassador to Ukraine. What is it adding up to at this point? DAVID BROOKS: Yes. When we first learned about the phone call,
you could say, well, it was just Trump being Trump, a reckless phone call, and he was sort
of elbowing the guy. Now that’s not the case. I think we have learned this was a three-month
coordinated campaign, with a whole series of meetings, a lot of people involved, to
try to get Ukraine to help Trump’s reelection bid. And so the Taylor testimony in particular
was detailed, methodical. It was the smoking gun. It was clear quid pro quo, an order coming
from the president hold up aid, unless Ukraine did this. And so that seals the deal, I think. And I think Republicans — at least the Republican
establishment — has to feel just beaten. And the question is, how do they find a way
to stick with him? But I think the Republican mood was, wow,
this is bad. Wow, this is bad. And so I think the key thing is to look for
sort of an emotional crumbling, where they just say, we have to — we have — we can’t
sit by along this. I don’t think we’re at that place, but it
was certainly a week that affected how Republican senators see this guy. JUDY WOODRUFF: Because, I mean — David’s
right, Mark. At this point, Republicans are — most of
them, the vast majority of them, are saying they still don’t see the solid evidence. MARK SHIELDS: No, they — that’s those who
make public statements. Those who don’t, don’t say that. I mean, and I think the silence does speak,
if not volumes, at least chapters. Ambassador Taylor’s testimony wasn’t a smoking
gun. It was a smoking armory. I mean, it really did. David’s right. It was specific. It was factual. It was compelling. And what I found most revealing about this
is, I went through Michael Atkinson, who was the inspector general, Michael McKinley, 37
years of service at the State Department, Ambassador Taylor, Marie Yovanovitch, Laura
Cooper, Fiona Hill, 163 years of public service, no hedge funds, no high-tech buyouts or whatever
else. I mean, these are people who have devoted
themselves. And I think Ambassador Taylor was the witness
from hell for the White House. He really was, I mean, 49 years of public
service, brought back in after retirement, at the insistence of the secretary of state. And he cannot go unmentioned, that Mike Pompeo
is violating every rule of the United States military on the responsibility of an officer
to his men and to those under him. He has totally abandoned and not stood up
for any of the people he’s appointed. JUDY WOODRUFF: Secretary of state. MARK SHIELDS: The secretary of state. And these professionals who have come forward,
at considerable cost and risk to their own careers in many instances, or certainly threat
peace of mind. And I think his silence is a telling indictment
of him and his lack of character. JUDY WOODRUFF: But, as we see, David, the
White House continues to say — and the president is raging about this. We heard it again today. He’s saying, these people have no credibility. And he was saying yesterday they’re part of
the so-called deep state. DAVID BROOKS: Right. JUDY WOODRUFF: And using a lot worse language
than that. DAVID BROOKS: Yes. And, so far, that’s holding. Impeachment is popular in the country, but
it’s very popular on the coastal parts of the country. Amy Walter pointed out this week that, in
the swing states, its favorability rating is 10 points lower than unfavorable. People are against impeachment. In Wisconsin, it’s minus seven. And so for Democrats to think that they can
swing Republican senators, they have to get those swing states, and they have to sell
the message. And, so far, they have secret hearings, which
I understand you don’t learn anything in a public hearing. They have to learn what happened. And so you have to get away from TV cameras
for that. But, eventually, they’re going to have to
turn to public hearings in order to try to persuade the country. And whether they can do that in a month or
two, whenever that happens, that, we will see. JUDY WOODRUFF: Some reporting that it may
happen in just a couple of weeks. Separate from this, Mark, but some people
think related, you had this revelation, reporting yesterday that the Department of Justice,
which had been overseeing a probe into the origins of the Russia investigation, what
the Russians did to affect the 2016 election, that was an inquiry. It’s now a criminal investigation, a criminal
probe. And the question — which raises all kinds
of questions. I mean, how did it become that? We don’t know. But I just want to show for, for all of us
— this is a comment from Senator Mark Warner, who’s the vice chair of the Senate Intelligence
Committee. He said: “Senate Intel, wrapping up a three-year
bipartisan investigation, we have found nothing remotely justifying this.” He said: “Mr. Barr,” referring to the attorney
general’s, “investigation has already jeopardize key international intelligence partnerships. He needs to come before Congress and explain
himself.” What’s this — how much does this matter that
this has become a criminal probe? MARK SHIELDS: Well, I think it does matter,
starting with the Mark Warner point. I mean, in an ocean of roiling, rancid partisanship,
the Senate Intelligence Committee has been an island of collegiality and cooperation. So I don’t know if he is speaking just for
himself, as the ranking Democrat and co-chair of that committee, or with the acquiescence
of Senator Burr, the chairman. I don’t know. But it certainly is a serious thing. I mean, you have to come to the conclusion,
Judy, that, in Bill Barr, Donald Trump finally got the attorney general he wanted, that Jeff
Sessions didn’t deliver for him. Jeff Sessions recused himself. I mean, his — Bill Barr is, at taxpayer expense,
hurling around the globe, from Australia, to Italy, in pursuit of information to somehow
rationalize, justify that Donald Trump didn’t lose in 2016, and that the Obama campaign,
Obama administration was somehow behind some spying on him. And Mark Warner’s point is, I mean, after
a three-year investigation by that committee, there is absolutely nothing that has come
to support that. And I don’t know what the answer is. David perhaps does. DAVID BROOKS: I, of course, know the answer. MARK SHIELDS: I know you do. DAVID BROOKS: It’s — you have to — having
thoroughly politicized the State Department, you have to go on the presumption Trump is
trying to politicize the Department of Justice, and you have to go in prejudging against that. The one mitigating factor is the guy they
selected to do the investigation, this guy John Durham, who has been appointed by both
parties, who has done — who has a sterling reputation. So at least we can rest, I think, in trust
with him. And that’s — that’s really — this goes to
what Mark was saying. The whole question for the last two years,
would our institutions hold? And I would say, given the testimonies of
the last week and whatever Durham does, I think the institutions are sort of holding. And the result is this impeachment, a guy
who — president who doesn’t go by any institutional logic, doesn’t obey institutional rules, and
yet the institutions are sort of standing up for those rules. JUDY WOODRUFF: A couple of minutes on the
— to look at the 2020 field. Mark, there are 18 still in the race. We had Tim Ryan, the congressman from Ohio,
drop out just yesterday. MARK SHIELDS: Right. JUDY WOODRUFF: But 18 still running, and there
is reporting out there — you have seen it — that some Democrats are getting anxious
because they’re worried they still don’t have a horse that can beat Donald Trump. How widespread do you think that worry is
among the Democrats? MARK SHIELDS: I’d say it’s a lively anxiety. I mean, the flaws or the defects of the top
four candidates, I mean, on ideological grounds, fear the Democrats, with Senator Warren and
Senator Sanders, that they are far too left, that they’re vying for sort of a liberal sliver
of the electorate right now. That Vice President Biden may not be the Joe
Biden that we have come to know and love in previous years. That Pete Buttigieg is the mayor of a very
small city, with a male partner, married to, is maybe, at 37, just a little bit more than
the country’s ready for, and especially in an election where they want the referendum
to be on a flawed, damaged, manifestly imperfect incumbent. So I think that, whether it’s Michelle Obama
or whatever else, I mean, Democrats are kind of casting around looking. But I think the key question Democrats have
to face is this, Judy. There are 206 counties that Barack Obama carried
twice that Donald Trump carried in 2016. And if the Democrats can go back and carry
those counties again, these are people, you can’t call — these wouldn’t be racists. And I think that’s the question. Can Democrats do that? And is that the kind of candidate and campaign
they want to run? DAVID BROOKS: Two years ago, I thought the
two strongest Democratic candidates were Mitch Landrieu, the former mayor of New Orleans,
and Deval Patrick, the former governor of Massachusetts. And they’re not in the race. JUDY WOODRUFF: Neither one. (CROSSTALK) DAVID BROOKS: Neither one in the race. And so I do see the sense of the anxiety. But I would say to Democrats, if you’re unhappy
with the top four, look at the bottom 14. MARK SHIELDS: Yes. DAVID BROOKS: Because there are perfectly
serviceable, good candidates there, in my opinion, Amy Klobuchar, Michael Bennet, Cory
Booker, Kamala Harris. And so… MARK SHIELDS: Steve Bullock. DAVID BROOKS: Steve Bullock. So, I think, look around. Like, try out some others, if you’re unhappy
with the top four. JUDY WOODRUFF: Well, one of the challenges
they have is just getting attention, with all the focus in Washington on impeachment
and everything else. It’s hard for them to get airtime, shall we
say. One thing we want to note at the beginning
— at the end of the program is that — as we near the end of the program, is that the
“NewsHour” announced today that we are — we will be hosting, moderating a Democratic presidential
debate toward the end of December, December 19. MARK SHIELDS: Oh, terrific. JUDY WOODRUFF: So, we are looking forward
to that opportunity. MARK SHIELDS: Wonderful. JUDY WOODRUFF: And, with that, Mark Shields,
David Brooks, have a great weekend. MARK SHIELDS: Thank you. JUDY WOODRUFF: Thank you. JUDY WOODRUFF: Finally tonight: Julie Andrews,
she’s one of those legendary entertainers everyone seems to know. Next year, Andrews will receive her latest
accolade, the American Film Institute’s life achievement award. John Yang sat down with 84-year-old Andrews
and her daughter, Emma Walton Hamilton, to talk about their new book, which reveals some
stories people don’t know about Andrews from her time in Hollywood. This is part of our ongoing arts and culture
series, Canvas. JOHN YANG: Both “Sound of Music” and “Mary
Poppins” were touchstones in my early… JULIE ANDREWS, Co-Author, “Home Work: A Memoir
of My Hollywood Years”: In your youth? Yes. JOHN YANG: My youth. JULIE ANDREWS: Actually, they were in mine
too. (LAUGHTER) EMMA WALTON HAMILTON, Co-Author, “Home Work:
A Memoir of My Hollywood Years”: And mine as well. JOHN YANG: And yours as well. EMMA WALTON HAMILTON: Yes. JOHN YANG: And then, talking to my colleagues,
they are showing their children. JULIE ANDREWS: Yes. Isn’t that phenomenal? I mean, that’s a bonus and — that you just
don’t expect, but those timeless, good musicals — and they were so beautifully made. JOHN YANG: Andrews’ legendary career includes
the stage, movies, TV, concerts, and recordings. She’s a dame commander of the British Empire
and has six Golden Globes, three Grammys, two Emmys, an Oscar, and a Kennedy Center
honor. Andrews and Hamilton, a professional writer
and arts educator, have written more than 30 books for children and young adults. They wrote “Home Work: A Memoir of My Hollywood
Years” as a team. Emma, as you were growing up, were there movies
or projects of your mothers that were particular favorites? EMMA WALTON HAMILTON: Oh, I was pretty much
there most of the time on set for most of the films. I couldn’t sit through “The Sound of Music”
for years without weeping, because any time I saw my mother cry on film, I burst into
tears myself. JULIE ANDREWS: Yes, she’d suddenly say, I’m
just going out for a little bit, blinking very furiously. EMMA WALTON HAMILTON: Yes. But I have to say, probably now, among my
favorites of her films is “Hawaii.” I think her performance in it is so different
than many of her other films and so strong. JOHN YANG: Of the three early ones you made,
“Americanization of Emily,” one of your favorites. JULIE ANDREWS: It’s the virtual war that is
the fraud, not war itself. It’s the valor and the self-sacrifice and
the goodness of war that needs the exposing. It’s a very timely theme, more than ever maybe,
about the folly and excess of war and the needlessness of it. JOHN YANG: Writing about your early days in
Vaudeville, you talked about the contrast between the glamorous appearance of life in
the theater and the rather shabby reality of it backstage. JULIE ANDREWS: Yes. JOHN YANG: And you give us a lot of examples
in your moviemaking, particularly of that wonderful opening scene of “Sound of Music.” The camera discovers you on a mountaintop. JULIE ANDREWS: Yes, but actually being photographed
by a cameraman hanging from the side of a helicopter. I kept being dashed to the ground by the downdraft
from the jet engines. But every time, I came up with grass and hay
all over me. (LAUGHTER) JOHN YANG: One lyric in the movie you never
quite got. JULIE ANDREWS: There’s just one tiny line
I really didn’t know how to sing. And I just thought the best thing to do is,
since I’m out in the wild and so on, just say — sing through the night like a lark. It was “learning to pray, I go to the hills,”
and carry on very fast after that. JOHN YANG: For her very first film, “Mary
Poppins,” she won the Oscar. JULIE ANDREWS: I know, a stunning surprise. I didn’t expect to. And I really thought for a while that maybe
was given to me as a kind of welcome to Hollywood gesture. And what a lucky, lucky moment in my life. JOHN YANG: The book focuses on the importance
of family, Emma, the child of her first marriage to theater director Tony Walton, two step-children,
Jennifer and Geoffrey, from her second marriage to noted film director/writer/producer Blake
Edwards, and the two daughters she and Edwards adopted, Amelia and Joanna. Edwards, who died in 2010, directed Andrews
in seven movies, including “10” and Victor/Victoria.” JULIE ANDREWS: I love the unity that it provides. And working with Blake, I felt so very safe
in his embrace, so to speak. And I knew that I didn’t have to worry about
a thing, but — on camera. But just sticking together, traveling together,
being together, it’s why home in “Home Work” is there, because making a home, keeping family
together means so much to me. EMMA WALTON HAMILTON: There’s a sweet story
in the book of when she flew in to surprise me for my 15th birthday. And she only left about two weeks prior to
go back to work in Europe. And I came home from school and discovered
her sitting on my bed completely wrapped in wrapping — well, crepe paper, I guess it
was. JULIE ANDREWS: Yes. EMMA WALTON HAMILTON: And then I burst into
tears, happy tears. JULIE ANDREWS: Yes. Thank God, yes. JOHN YANG: Yet not all the memories are happy. JULIE ANDREWS: Blake was a very depressive
personality, and yet devastatingly funny. But when he was in a bad way, it was very
sad. JOHN YANG: You felt the need to make things
better, to make people happy. JULIE ANDREWS: Well, it’s sort of my job in
a way, John, if you think about it, being on stage all my life. It’s about hopefully giving joy. And I love to do it. JOHN YANG: In her next book, Andrews also
expects to deal with the emotional impact of losing her singing voice after throat surgery
in 1997, though she says she can’t discuss the procedure itself. JULIE ANDREWS: Unfortunately, I can’t talk
about it, since it was part of my agreement in a settlement where I gave all the settlement
to charity and so on. But it was a devastating time in my life. JOHN YANG: She’s still working, though, recently
creating and appearing in “Julie’s Greenroom” on Netflix. The children’s series produced with The Jim
Henson Company is about puppet staging their own musical under the watchful eye of Andrews,
now herself a grandmother of 10 and great-grandmother of three. For the “PBS NewsHour,” I’m John Yang in New
York. JUDY WOODRUFF: On the “NewsHour” online right
now: Some U.S. allies are left wondering what the U.S. decision to pull out of Northeast
Syria means for them. We examine how three countries may be feeling. That’s on our Web site, PBS.org/NewsHour. Tune in later tonight. Robert Costa explores the Democrats’ strategy
for open hearings going forward. Our Amna Nawaz joins “Washington Week” for
an impeachment roundup. On “PBS NewsHour Weekend” Saturday: a look
at Miami’s affordable housing crisis and how the city plans to create 12,000 new units
by 2024. And that’s the “NewsHour” for tonight. I’m Judy Woodruff. Join us online and again here on Monday evening. For all of us at the “PBS NewsHour,” have
a great weekend, and we will see you soon.

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